16th Mar 2010

What is your carbon footprint? And are you prepared to change your entire life so you dont get fined?

  • Ive heard about this carbon footprint and up until recently not much thought about it until I heard about Obama's campaign giving the epa free reign in the US. I just took my carbon footprint calculator test and I got a 31, the average in the US is 27. In the test I had to tell where I lived, how many rooms I live in, how many meals a day I use meat, and what kind of light bulbs i use in my apartment. A year from now, we will all have a carbon footprint, and if we go over, we will be taxed. In a year from now the EPA will have free reign over our industries that create our power. I live in western PA and all of our power comes from coal, it always has. The EPA will shut down the coal industry to promote cleaner air and less effect on global warming. Im almost 30, and i have never seen the effects of global warming. Up until yesterday I didnt realize that carbon was a bad thing, I thought thats what kept the trees green and all of us breathing? Im not against a clean enviroment, but when i think of clean enviroment i think about the streets not covered in litter, not changing my eating habits, or gettin a smaller apartment to save the ice caps 10,000 miles away! Seriously, how many of you out there have seen the effects of global warming and are ready to embrace the carbon footprint tax? How many of you that voted for Obama, are ready to pay higher energy costs and use less of it? I really don't think anyone is prepared for what this country is about to become.


  • My carbon footprint is probably way too high, and no i don't plan to change any part of my life to reduce that.


  • I have no intention of paying a "lifestyle fine."

    And if they impose one, that's it, I'm rebelling, because that's a lot worse than the Stamp Act.

    My lifestyle is NONE of the government's business.


  • First of all, Obama is pro-coal coming from the state he does. Secondly, the EPA already has control of these industries. They just make the rules more and more lax to do whatever the coal industry wants. I am ready to pay twice as much or more for power or fuel. The acid rain from your coal fired power plants drifts north to Maine and kills our trees and makes our lake and river fish unfit to eat because of all the mercury coming from the coal. My entire life doesn't need to change- I already use much less power than most people because I see no reason to waste just because I can. Bushco took away more personal freedom than any president in history; I don't think Osama is smart enough to be able to equal or exceed him in that department.


  • I dont think any of that will happen. Coal will continue to be used, and the EPA will have a damned hard time trying to get money out of me. I will send them notes telling them how well their bills burned in my wood stove.

    How funny, shutting down the coal industry, getting rid of millions of jobs...


  • I'll eat my wood fire pizza when ever i god dam want! I'll drive what ever i god dam want! I'll pollute as much as i dam want! AND NOONE WILL STOP ME! WHY? because you can't impose large scale lifestyle changes just like that! otherwise you'd turn into nazi's as soon as someone rebels! Kill him! his not cooporating! or kill him! his driving a hummber! kill him! his got flourescent lights! KILL HIM HIS EXHALING TOO HARD!


  • I think that very few people have really understood the scope of this "carbon footprint" thing. I actually work at a coal-fired power plant in Texas. My company started building coal-fired plants in the late 1970s because of Jimmy Carter's disastrous policies which led to totally skyrocketing fuel prices (prices went to over 10 times their previous level while Carter was President). So my company diversified by building coal-fired and nuclear plants to go with our existing gas-fired plants. Since then, we've even built a bunch of wind turbines and even landfill gas generators. Now it looks like we're in for a repeat of the same poor fiscal policies that plagued Carter's administration.

    The only good thing that I think may come of this is a marked increase in nuclear power (zero greenhouse gases) in the USA. However, nuclear is expensive to build, and it can't be built even in an 8-year Obama administration, no matter how bad anyone wants it, which is what would make a major, immediate ban of coal into a huge financial disaster.


  • A Carbon Footprint is the total sum of the energy and resources required for your lifestyle, and it varies widely based on travel habits, house size etc.

    In reality it only somewhat measures a piece of your total environmental impact, and while online calculators are fun they are only partially representative of the carbon it takes to support your lifestyle and not a true profile.

    To clarify a point: we all have a carbon footprint, and have since the beginning of our harnessing fire - not a point to labour on, just noting it won't be a year from now - its been an issue since the dawn of mankind, we were just ingenious enough to accelerate it.

    I have not heared about a Carbon Footprint tax, so much as regulation placed on industries to limit their output and fine (a.k.a. Tax) them for exceeding defined limits.

    The risk most everyday folks will encounter is a defined tax added at the pumps and energy home consumption (get those light bulbs).

    The impacts are at the beginning stage (the ice melting) the good things for folks in Area's like PA is that largely no impact will be noticed until the weather patterns become constantly extreme (ie. increased storm activity, heavier rainfall or increased dry spells - models only can guess so much).

    Socialism and the evils of Canada are a question for another forum.


  • You sir, are very ignorant if you are just finding out that carbon is bad for the environment. I totally agree with this tax, because if we don't stop Global Warming soon, my grand-children's lives will really suck. I think you should just buy some new light bulbs, which last much longer anyways, and which will save you money.


  • The EPA will not shut down an energy provider before a replacement is in place. It will not shut down a huge industry like that of any kind. It may impose fines to the company if thier mining and processing facilities do not adhere to EPA rules and regulations. The EPA will hopefully come up with an alternative for energy in your area, and soon you will have a choice of what you want for an energy supplier. There will be no fee imposed for people regarding thier carbon footprint, that is an informational device, to further educate people on their personal impact on the enviorment. The only real thing that presidents do that is bam its happening now, is go to war. All the other problems come lots later, alot of bills signed into law, take a few years to even come into effect! Although Obama is president, he can do no more than the law allows and the house and senate will vote in.


  • Your attitude is short-sited, alarmist and selfish. You are right, you will likely see only a small part of the effects from global warming in your lifetime. It is your children and those with most of their lives after the year 2050 who will suffer most of the economic losses from your wasteful ways. The idea of a carbon cap and trade plan is to offer financial rewards to those companies who develop new better technology. Those will destructive methods will pay for the damage they cause. This is the real free market, have everyone pay the costs they choose to incur and let the best-run companies run the bad ones out of business. The world is changing. We can't go on giving away our wealth to the arab nations and we should not continue dump deficts and climate change on our children just because we don't want to do our part. This is just normal love for our children and our grandchildren.


  • I THINK I LEFT MY CARBON FOOT PRINT IN THE ASHES OF MY LAST CAMPFIRE WHILE HUNTING .....MANBEARPIG !!!







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