Anyone heard of plans for Canon EOS 5D replacement?

15th Mar 2010

I have been doing a lot of research for my next camera lately...I want to be sure that I won't be disappointed with my investment. I am leaning towards the EOS 5D, because I like the full frame sensor and it also has a high megapixel count. My only hesitation is the fps rate of 3.

The 40D has a higher frame rate of 6.5, but not a full frame sensor.

I'm wondering if anyone has heard any rumors of Canon releasing a replacement for the 5D since it came out in 2005? I wonder if they will release a faster successor to the 5D. I will probably buy my next camera in 2008, so I might wait longer if Canon does plan on a replacement for the 5D.

Sorry if this topic has already been discussed, but I looked and did not see it on the forums.

I'm there with you Marcus! I think I'm going to hold out though; because my luck too, just as I would purchase the 5D, it's replacement would come out! :lmao:

The K20D was already announced, but not released yet.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/23/pentax-gets-official-with-14-6-megapixel-k20d-dslr/

Oh :er: - I'm a ditz! LOL

i saw some image samples of what was called a "7D" floating around about 3 months ago. sorry, i don't have a link. i don't even remember what the samples were like. but it had -some- validity. they were posted with 40D samples.

I am debating between the 1D Mark III or 5D. My biggest snag with the 5d is the 3fps. Hoping the update will boost it up to at least the 40D's 6.5fps
The problem with that, is that if they up the speed of the 5D...fewer photographers would buy the 1 series cameras. Canon's plan isn't to make the best camera possible...it's to make one that fits in between their existing models.

those images are always forged and just made to attract hits to certain webpages ;) Been there, done that ... with the 40 D with the 30 D with and the 1Ds and everything. some good photoshopping though ;)
just making sure we're on the same page. it was only img samples i saw, with "7d" exif, no body shots. (and yeah, there ARE forged examples - remember that D3 that looked like a 645? - but it's still a loose possibility)
i'm under the impression it's going to be a 5dmkII, rather than 7d, but wanted to stir the pot with my rumour. :)

Could be a teaser for the 5D replacement?

This is what everybody think.

Here is the thread (http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137077) regarding the 5D replacement.

Just remember guys (and gals). Just because the newer camera was released doesn't make your current one produce any less of a photo.

Had to revisit this one, so now the CES and PMA shows have come and gone, and still no word of a Canon 5D replacement.

Just wondering what everyone else thinks, will there be one later this year, next year, or when? Has anyone heard any rumors?

I am looking at the 5D as my next camera but I know as soon as I buy it the replacement is going to come out...it's Murphy's Law, isn't it? Also, I've heard the interface on the 5D isn't the greatest. And I don't want a camera that is going to be frustrating to change settings.

Oh well, I guess I should be patient, it's still going to be a while anyway until I'll be able to afford it.

There are a LOT of gear magazines around, but during and right after the big shows they do reviews of all the freshly announced gear. Canon has always released their specialty gear (1D, 5D) outside of the show cycle to ensure they're the only ones with a camera out that month - hence guaranteeing the cover and "Best Ever" headlines. A relative newcomer like Sony instead still needs to do multi-unit releases such as the various A300s to ensure that journalists cover their product and include it in every comparison round-up (and to have more shelf-space behind the counter of big-box vendors).

There will be a big show in the fall...Photokina I think. That would be my guess...but who knows.

The 5D is still in a category of it's own. It's full frame and it's only $2000. Canon appears to be in no hurry to put out another model at this time. Maybe if Nikon had put out a full frame camera in this price range, we would see Canon fire back (pun intended) sooner.

As far as I know, the interface on the 5D is practically the same as on the 30D. So it's better than entry level but different from the Pro bodies.

I guess we will see, when the new one comes out...but I'm sure there will be a time when the price of the 5D drops even lower and you will have to choose between a cheap 5D and the new model.

I had though that I would upgrade to the newer 5D but I think a 40D may be good enough for what I will need to do...and with the 10-22mm, the crop factor isn't a problem at all.

using auto-WB? I do not know anyone who actually does that. So none of my friends ever had WB-problems with their 5D.

those images are always forged and just made to attract hits to certain webpages ;) Been there, done that ... with the 40 D with the 30 D with and the 1Ds and everything. some good photoshopping though ;)

Canon and Nikon both have more or less no information leaks. If information is released, that is always on purpose and well timed. Anyone who does let information out without being authorised to do so, will be quickly sacked and sued to hell ;)

Its all of the WB settings. When did I ever say it was auto...?

Where would you purchase it for $1,500? Every reputable place that I've checked has it for $2,100! I think my next purchase is studio - and maybe in the fall either the 5D or it's replacement! :)

Then you wouldn't have the amazing battery life of the 1 series and (I presume) a slower internal motor... maybe less build strength too.

I think its funny how so many don't like the 1-series size and weight but when it comes to the highly regarded 70-200mm f2.8L IS, no one seems to care too much.

I too don't like the heaviness of the 1 series... but advantages comes with disadvantages. I have another much smaller camera that performs just as well for those times I don't want to carry the weight.

I for one will stick with my 1D markII (purchased used a few years ago at a bargain price), it takes wonderful photos and fits me well. I don't "feel" the urge to move up. I might in the distant future buy a used 5D but most likely not... I've been de-investing in Canon for a while now.

I have to say though... from a business perspective, the 5D will be a tough act to follow for Canon. Sliding that camera, packed full with HUGE features (full frame is the big one), between the 20D and 1 series was an absolutely brilliant decision. Mind yah.. this was done back in 2005 and I bet the sales for the 5D is still strong and will continue to be strong until its replacement is available.

I am debating between the 1D Mark III or 5D. My biggest snag with the 5d is the 3fps. Hoping the update will boost it up to at least the 40D's 6.5fps. I can wait since I have the 40D now, but would like a FF camera by years end. Would love the Mark III, but is it $2K better than a 5D?

Your right...

In fact the I purchased the camera from a very well known photojournalist in the area. He was offloading two 1d-markIIs to fund a couple 5Ds. Lighter, durable enough, and excellent image quality were reasons he gave me. I'm sure he had the same issues... Other photogs I've met, don't seem to care much. Then again.. what do I know, I am just a hobbiest. heheh lol

I for one am de-investing in Canon mainly because I am finding SLRs in general a bit cumbersome for ME.. sometimes to the point that it takes the fun out of the whole experience. SLR lenses just seem to be bigger in size and weight then they need to be (just like the bodies) Each and everytime I stop by my fav local camera store, I keep ending up holding the Pentax K10D. Keep in mind that I'm an old Pentax shooter until Pentax pretty much fell off the planet in the 90s. I keep marveling at the compact size, features packed in it, the weather sealing, and the bright viewfinder. I challenge such a Canon shooter as yourself to check out the K10D. The compactness versus features just might be enough to convince you... and save your back as well.

BTW... The pentax guys are also waiting the K20D which is also suppose to be announced any day now. Rumor is 14.6 mp sensor. At a fraction of the equivalent Canon. (K10D was $800 USD with kit lens)

just making sure we're on the same page. it was only img samples i saw, with "7d" exif, no body shots. (and yeah, there ARE forged examples - remember that D3 that looked like a 645? - but it's still a loose possibility)
i'm under the impression it's going to be a 5dmkII, rather than 7d, but wanted to stir the pot with my rumour. :)

OK, haven't seen those, but exif is even easier to forge than a body shot ;)

So we basically agree we all just wait until it is announced by canon, which may take month or a year ;) Actually, my hope is, the longer it takes, the better it will be :)

One big advantage of the 5D over the 1-series (at least for me) is that it is considerably smaller and lighter.

Its all of the WB settings. When did I ever say it was auto...?

This was why i put a question mark there! ;)

Because cameras on auto sometimes tend to behave not ideally.

If it was not auto, then something was strange with that particular camera. Just I know severay people with 5Ds and while there might have been problems, there never were any regarding the preset WBs.

This is what everybody think.

Here is the thread (http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137077) regarding the 5D replacement.

ahh...didn't see that thread, thanks.

I think I will be happy I've held out for this camera.

Just for fun, I figured I'd send an email to Canon to ask about a 5D replacement. I'm not naive enough to think I would find out any new information, but I figured it'd be interesting at the least to see their response:

Hi,

I am doing the initial research for my next camera purchase. I am
currently looking at the EOS 5D, 40D and Nikon's D3 and D300.

I really am leaning toward the 5D as I already have a 300D so I could
use the 300D as a backup body.

I just have one question: Do you have a replacement for the 5D in the
works? I am wondering because I would hate to purchase the 5D and then
find out a month later there is a replacement for it.

Thanks in advance,

Marcus

CANON'S REPLY:

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Well, you do not need rumors for this. just looking back in time with Canon's camera releases will tell you that a 5D follow-up is due soon. I would expect it around beginning of next year.

The 5D mark II should be full frame, have a couple of MP more, improved sensor in terms of dynamic range, better noise behavior at raised ISO.

There will also be some new toy (useless) features, as usual ;)

I'm there with you Marcus! I think I'm going to hold out though; because my luck too, just as I would purchase the 5D, it's replacement would come out! :lmao:

But you are aware that you can get a new 5D now for about 1500 USD less than the price of the future replacement?

So you have to decide between spending 1500 more and waiting for another 6 to 9 months, or save 1500 (e.g. to spend it on a lens which matches the camera) and get it now :)

I would know my decision ;)

My friend has the 5D and has had a massive amount of problems with his white balance. Ive seen it in the works no matter what settings he has its screwed up and he had it serviced and it still has the problem...

using auto-WB? I do not know anyone who actually does that. So none of my friends ever had WB-problems with their 5D.

i saw some image samples of what was called a "7D" floating around about 3 months ago. sorry, i don't have a link. i don't even remember what the samples were like. but it had -some- validity. they were posted with 40D samples.

those images are always forged and just made to attract hits to certain webpages ;) Been there, done that ... with the 40 D with the 30 D with and the 1Ds and everything. some good photoshopping though ;)

Canon and Nikon both have more or less no information leaks. If information is released, that is always on purpose and well timed. Anyone who does let information out without being authorised to do so, will be quickly sacked and sued to hell ;)

The 5D is a bit of problem for Canon because the better they make it the more it cuts into the 1DsMIII’s market share. The 1DsMIII and old MII are better the 5D but not $4000 better IMO. I was hoping to buy the new 5D before going to Germany this year but I will have to wait longer.

You should just picked up a used 1Ds Mark II ;)

Honestly no idea but they are making some very antsy customers. :lol:

I bought the 5D in December, and there was talks of the successor being introduced in January's photo show...didn't happen. I think if you play the waiting game with technology, you'll always be waiting. Things mature too fast anymore to play the waiting game. So you don't have the newest thing, because once you buy the newest thing, something else it's on it's way in a matter of months. I'd personally get the 5D now...it's a great camera and the successor is going to be EXPENSIVE!

There are rumors of a 5D Mark II in the works... no other information is afaik.

Now that the Nikon D3 has come about, one would think that that canon would soon follow with a new full frame, but at this level, Canon and Nikon, are not really competing because new customers generally don't just jump right into a full frame.

I think that my point is, I would think that the Mark II is probably in the future, but there is really not much pressure on canon, time wise. Most of the pressure would be from current Canon customers, not competition. So the more people demand it from canon, the faster it will come( in theory).

For me this is not so much of a problem for indoor work or when near any kind of civilisation, but when I do longer expedition style hikes, every ounce counts. And I have enough weight with lenses and tripod already ;)

Also, my current gear (excluding tripod, but including laptop) just about goes as carry-on baggage on planes in Europe. with a 1-series I would be in trouble already.

I am lucky though, as I do not need the fps everybody seems to be keen about :)

Then you wouldn't have the amazing battery life of the 1 series and (I presume) a slower internal motor... maybe less build strength too.

I think its funny how so many don't like the 1-series size and weight but when it comes to the highly regarded 70-200mm f2.8L IS, no one seems to care too much.

I too don't like the heaviness of the 1 series... but advantages comes with disadvantages. I have another much smaller camera that performs just as well for those times I don't want to carry the weight.

Yep, sounds like a normal corporate response! :)

Just build up your lenses so when the new 5D comes out, you'll be ready to take advantage of it's capabilities. I would guess we'd see it before the end of the year, but I wouldn't expect anything right after the release of the XSi. I'm sure they want to space their camera announcements out.

Big Mike...

I hear this a lot. Pick some feature of the 5D (or even the lower models) and wish it were more like the 1 series. What people are really wishing for is 1 series performance at the price point of "at most" the 5D.

IMO, Canon already makes their version of the best camera.. in fact two: 1d Mark III (for sports etc.. ) and the 1ds markIII (for fashion etc.). All other cameras including the 5D and its replacement exist purely as options for those with a smaller budget. Given the current lineup, I think Canon does a wonderful job of providing options that fits everyone's budget.

Thanks for all the great responses everyone...good things to think about. Basically, the way I see my options are:

"Wait" for the 5D replacement to come out to decide if the added features are worth paying the extra money for the replacement, or buy the 5D at a lower price. (Wait is in quotations because I'm mostly "waiting" for my bank account to grow than waiting for the replacement - Truth be told, if I had $5K right now I probably would have already bought the 5D)

Yes, technology is moving so fast that no matter what, as soon as you buy the item you want, something bigger and better is always soon to follow.

I'm with Alex, Canon uses does follow a pattern of sorts. It would be my guess that a new version (or new model) of the 5D should be out early next year. The PMA show is usually in February or early March, and I would think that would be when they spill the beans...or maybe something will leak a few weeks before then.

That's a say nothing response from Canon. I will say that based on Canon's 18 month product replacement cycle, a new 5D is due in during next 6 months. On the other hand, the 5D is just so darned good they'll have to work hard to improve it.

Well...Photokina 2008 starts in a week. I'm getting antsy to see if Canon will release a 5D replacement.

Guess we will soon see!!!!

Where would you purchase it for $1,500? Every reputable place that I've checked has it for $2,100! I think my next purchase is studio - and maybe in the fall either the 5D or it's replacement! :)

I said 1500 less than what an estimated price for the 5D replacement would be ;)

My friend has the 5D and has had a massive amount of problems with his white balance. Ive seen it in the works no matter what settings he has its screwed up and he had it serviced and it still has the problem...

The Canon pro line is on a 3 year replacement so the 5d Is due from now till next year for a replacement.

If you want to upgrade now I would get one off ebay and use it till the new one comes out that way you wont lose as much money

hmmm...that's kind of interesting. I just went to Canon's site to look at their lineup of DSLRs (http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndexAct&fcategoryid=111), and if you look at their banner ad at the top for a few seconds, one comes up called 'Destined Evolution'. If you click on it, it opens a new window with the shot of a Canon camera body partly in shadow in front of the moon, with the words 'Destined Evolution' again, and that's all there is.

Could be a teaser for the 5D replacement?

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